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They are pretty steep charges that suck into our available incomes and Readkng. They are used to ensure that the use of natural resources and the resulting waste of all of the creatures, humans and pets, in the cities and towns is minimised. Over the last 18 years that I have owned my apartment in central Auckland, these particular costs have tripled as the city has been steadily improving its practices. It has dealt with a far higher degree of intensification than Need to suck clean cut Reading guy, and much of it has been demanded by increasing environmental gu from the government.

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Such abrupt changes in policy just make forward planning considerably more difficult. At least the farmers usually get considerable warning of future policy changes. Yet the struggle of urban areas and towns to cleab their use of resources and waste appears to be a topic that the pontificating anonymous Federated Farmers spokesman at the Herald is blithely unaware of.

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We share this land, rural, provincial and urban NZ.

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The award, acknowledges clsan academics who act as the critic and conscience of society by providing independent, expert commentary on issues that affect the New Zealand community and future generations. Dairy Intensification is the primary issue! Particularly in places that are totally unsuitable, like Canterbury!

The fertiliser companies also need to be held to account, i. Balance and Ravensdown, along with Fonterra, and Synlait etc.

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There is no way to reduce this runoff other than reducing our already overpopulated herd size. Oh, the poor dears. Nurses and orderlies etc are financially undervalued but everyone doesnt think they are an expert.

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Every parent thinks they are an expert in teaching! Curious to hear people voting well outside of their direct economic interests of tax and GDP, into a really specific environmental field that has never has electoral traction before. I have heard those murmurs before but seemingly when in the ballot box they revert to type or the extra 15 bucks a week.

Hopefully this time is different.

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Beef cattle used to be stocked at the rate of 1 beast equal to 5 sheep. Dairy cattle ratio must be much higher. Maybe 1 dairy cow equal as high as 10 sheep.

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But a hasty back of the envelope calculation said that it was in the right order of magnitude.

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The biggest impact are hoof impact and concentration of nitrates. Yes I recall a country calendar where a northland farm had ditched the Dairy model and was running a music festival northern Bass I think and regenerating the land.